By Mike Wheeler
For a few months my better half has been hassling me about changing providers for our Internet service. There is a plethora of great deals around at the moment, which make our current deal with Bigpond seem somewhat frugal by comparison. We want more bang for our buck. I’ve been putting it off, more due to procrastination than any real desire not to get it done.
Yesterday, the proverbial straw that not only broke the camel’s back, but ground its spine into the dust, happened. We lost our Internet connection. This in itself has happened in the past, but the response from Bigpond – with vicarious liability also being Telstra’s in this writer’s opinion – was beyond woeful. Last time, it took over a week for them to repair a problem that they initially thought was our problem, but turned out to a faulty cable connection on the street.
So I call Bigpond’s help desk…in the Philippines. Now, I know that this has been a bugbear of many people – Australian help desks being based in other countries. Initially the indignation was fed by the thought that huge corporations making large amounts of dosh were sending jobs overseas. It was compounded by the reality that most of these call centres were in countries where English was not a first language, or even if it was an official language – such as India –the accent could be hard to understand. I didn’t have this issue, but ironically – Telstra being a communication’ company and all – it was the annoying time lag that was causing both the customer service officer and myself to have most of the problems. Although we resolved talking over each other (did I mention it took about 15 minutes for them to answer the call?), it appears he had a problem with my accent. I had to repeat everything twice, sometimes three times, because he couldn’t understand me (ok, so I have a New Zealand twang. Luckily, I wasn’t placing an order for fush and chups).
This again, though, was not the main annoyance – that was yet to come. He did a diagnostic run and decided that he couldn’t help. Now, I don’t claim to be a super technology expert, but I do believe my knowledge is above average. You don’t work in the industry for a couple of years without picking up a thing or two. I felt the problem was with our Bigpond modem. He wasn’t too sure, but decided to kick it upstairs to the next level. Fine.
So, I get a new customer service officer on the line, with a much more familiar accent, who is based in Sydney. Cool. Now I can get the problem resolved. So we go through the ritual of making sure I’m the account holder, yadda, yadda, yadda (which I have already done with the guy from the call centre – why didn’t he just pass the details on?), and we talk about what the possible problem is. However, just before we get into the nitty gritty, we hit a snag.
“You do realise this is a pay service, sir?”
“Er, excuse me?”
“This is Telstra Premium Plus. We have a minimum fee of $99 to diagnose the problem.”
“Are you related to Telstra, or are you a contractor to Telstra?” I queried.
“No, we are separate from Telstra, but under the umbrella of the company.”
“So, let me get this straight. You want to charge me to fix your modem that’s stuffed?”
It went downhill from there. I’ll use this analogy: If I rent a place and trash the oven, I pay. I get that. If the oven breaks down, the landlord has to repair it. I get that. What Telstra were saying to me was, “the oven’s broken, but you have to pay for it.”
Uh-uh. The hell I will. But here comes the real kicker and then some.
“Did the other gentleman tell you that you had to pay for the service?” he asked.
“No.” I replied.
“Well, he should have,” said my erstwhile friend.
“I bet,” I seethed under my breath.
But wait there was more.
“Well, you don’t have to pay us, I can put you through to the escalation service.”
“What’s that?” I asked.
“Well, it offers the same service as us, but it is back at the other place (ie the Philippines). He didn’t tell you about that?”
“No he didn’t.”
“Well he should have.”
Hhhhmmmm. After I fought gallantly to reverse the red mist that was desperately trying to cloud my field of vision, I took a couple of deep breaths and thanked the gentleman as he transferred me back to the overseas help desk. After about 20 minutes with nobody answering the phone I hung up. By this time my whole demeanour had changed from that of outrage to that of resignation that it just wasn’t going to happen. Due to this experience, we’ll be looking elsewhere for our Internet connection, even if we do have to pay a get-out fee
And this is why, in my opinion, Bigpond sucks. They send you around in circles, the left hand doesn’t know what the right is doing, and they try to impose a financial penalty when their gear doesn’t work. And this leads to the biggest irony of all – Telstra’s big promise, made by none other than its CEO David Thodey, that customer service was a priorty – in his own words: “Telstra's new online customer service unit will support our growing customer base, providing customers with the option of faster and more convenient ways of interacting with the company, including through social media.”
Yeah, well, where’s my Internet connection, Dave?





Comments
So tell me, is there anywhere that does give any service and reliable broadband connections?
Good question. I have one friend who swears by Hotkey, while another likes what TPG has to offer. It's not so much the reliable internet connection that bothered me, it is their lack of service and the ability to try and charge me for something that is their problem.
While most Internet, mobile and landline service providers are unhelpfull, the telecommunications ombudsman is excellent. U don't wait to talk to someone, they will record ur claim and give u a claim number with in a few mintues.
Once a claim is lodged, the ISP is charged(I think even if ur complaint is ilegit).
If the claim is not dealt with with in a certain time limit from the time of ur call(maybe a week or something) then they get charged a higher penalty)
there are a number of time limits, exceeding each one costs alot of money and very quickly it's cheaper for telstra to do anything u want than to pay anymore fines.
I will tell u now. Optus hAs a department that is only for people with ombadsman claims. If u don't make a claim then they can't talk to j. But I will tell u, they are very very helpful:)
I hope this helps. It's a system that works
Yeah i gave telstra the dump to go with westnet.Voted best isp for so many years running.don't know who they pay for these votes but they are not getting mine thats for sure.right from the initial signup the guy got it all wrong.when i complained they said they would review the tape and get back to me.they then acknowledged there was a stuff up but too bad pal we got u on a 24 mth plan now so put up with it.
I don't think it matters who u go with.they are all after one thing.Your MONEY and they don't give a rats arse how they get it.
Telstra now charges $5 to talk to a customer service rep.
We just dumped our mobile service with them.
Wake up all u telco's.
I experienced exactly the same problem with Bigpond last year when I had difficulties installing a new ADSL modem. Eventually I HAD to pay the $99 before my "problem" was solved.
This kind of "service" is open to all sort of rorts. I have never been completely happy with Telstra's high charges and poor service - and if you ask others you will find that most people agree. Telstra still has a monopoly though and most people shrug their shoulders and say it's better being with the devil you know than the devil you don't.
If I could find a decent alternative to Bigpond though I'd change in a shot!
My family and i have been with TPG for about 16 years, and in this time i have not one complaint about their customer service, mostly because their service is so reliable that you never have to deal with them, and although their customer service operations are overseas they are reasonable to deal with on the odd occasion that things have gone wrong, which i think tops most large isp's in australia.
ps i am not or have i ever been affiliated with tpg and if i had to have one complaint about them it would be not advising customers of better deals for the same money they are already paying once their contracts expire, but i suppose they are ultimately in the money making business
iiNet have always been excellent with their customer service and their products. Their service is reliable, so I don't really encounter any reasons to have to call them in the first place (which is the ideal outcome for both parties concerned anyway) and when I do deal with them, they're hassle free.
I am with iprimus. I'm not happy with the speed/rate plans. The people are friendly if you do have a problem. I think they are overseas. Usually they have Indian accents. Always very friendly when I have called. The internet speed has slowed down drastically over the past few months and my downloads seem to disappear even through I have not been using the internet very often. I'm thinking about changing to Optus. They have much better deals. However I run a Mac so I need to be sure they can offer me the right service. Thinking also about TPG.
I've been having problems with my TPG ADSL 2+ internet connections for the last few months but think it's mainly due to my phone line. I'm with AAPT for phone who use the Telstra lines. AAPT have been excellent in communicating while trying to get it fixed by Telstra. There must be some 3rd party agreement to get quick service between them because the Telstra guy (who is hopeless) has looked into it within 24 hours. The Telstra guys asked who we were with because it's rare that Telstra customers get serviced this quickly. He couldn't find the problem and tried to blame everything other than the Telstra line. He says he'll get back to us - still haven't heard back......
I also happened to be in a Telstra shop about a month ago and heard a customer mentioning to the Telstra guy that his friend was having service issues. I couldn't believe the Telstra guy's response - "Well how would you like to be looking after all those customer complaints? It's never going to be fixed quickly. Unless you think you can do a better job you shouldn't complain." Great customer service!
I had the same .... if not worse service or none from Telstra/Bigpond. I got a USB internet connection ,went into the Telstra store to tell them what computer I have and they recommended a NextG USB . I go home try to install it onto my computer and it won't work . I ring the help line on my mobile as I don't have a home phone and after waiting 45mins I finally get thru to customer service to be told that Nextg won't work with Windows Vista.
The next day I go back to the store to explain the error they had made and they gave me a Bigpond USB . I then have to pay for the USB as there was no package available on this service at the time . I go home and to my horror this one won't work either ! I phone again on my mobile another 45mins , get thru give the USB code and find out that the USB they gave me has been used and is faulty !!!
I am now livid !!!
I return to the store again ready to kill one of the incompetent staff members . I get a new USB unit and this actually works - sort of . It dropped out every 2 mins .
Yes it was 2008 and there is now better coverage but the lack of customer service , apology and poor attitudes has left me a forever NEVER a returning customer to Telstra/Bigpond.
Amnet is very good in Western Australia, after that iiNet/Westnet all the way. As for Telstra, GREAT MOBILE COVERAGE, I've been and seen them all, NextG kills it for speed and coverage. However, Telstra should hang their heads in shame when it comes to customer service. No, I DO NOT want to speak to a robot, and fix my own problem on-line and I DO NOT want to wait 45 minutes to talk to someone then when I do I can't understand a word they're saying. Atrocious. The only people with Telstra are he ones who do not know any better or NextG is their only option for broadband, otherwise please vote with your wallet and stay the hell away from them. Maybe they'll get the picture then.
Yes, Netspace are amazing and based in Australia.
Dennis
I have been I Bigpond Pond Customer for many years. The only two problems that I have had was a problem with Modem that was powering itself down and up. After reporting the problem, I then received a new modem with 3 day (even when I was told it could be up to 7 working days). The only problem that this caused, was that because a get a number of newsletters including yours, and then spent about a half a day reading my mail.
The only other problem I have had was when we had heavy rain in South Australia at the same time of the floods in Queensland, they said that they would get a tech out as soon as possible, but the priority was returning services to people in Queensland because of the floods. I found that this was acceptable. The problem was traced to water getting into the phone line at our home. During this problem, Telstra arranged that all incoming and outgoing call be re-directed to our mobiles at normal home phone rates. I feel that this is not good, but excellent service!
Dealing with their help desk overseas can be a problem but I had had on the one problem with the modem and as I said above, after dealing with manager this was fixed.
I have also been a customer of Bigpond from Dial-Up to ADSL 2 , the only problem I would like is cable which stops the next street over, because of the National Broadband system.
At one time, I made the very big mistake of going to Vodaphone , for business reasons. At best, the signal I got was very poor to poor. The tower used by Vodphone is with in viewing distance from our house and my mobile was showing 4 bars or the maximum on that phone. Vodaphone on calling them, then suggested that they had a problem with their black dongle and it should be replaced by the white dongle. This was no improvement. They them suggested that suggested that I get the maximum length of USB cable and place the dongle by our window, again with no success.
The next suggestion from their help desk was to tie a coat hanger to the dongle and see if that helped. I started IT in 1971, and worked my way to a director of Information Technology. This was the best comment I had ever headed, and after stopping laughing I explained to their Help Deck, that the dongle case was plastic, however I tried it and it don’t work!
A friend has the exact same problem and has got the same suggestions!
Also, with my then HP notebook, if I walked about a 100 metres form one side of my house I got fair download, but if I walked a 100meters the other side of my house I got no signal.
In the end I purchased a new Bigpond Ultimate dongle from Bigpond, and now get the same download as my ADSL 2 modem. I spoke to them about this and they explained that there was two sim cards in the Dongle, one for download and one for upload. I have tested this on the same 500meg file and the difference between the two was nothing. This was with an Alienware notebook. To be sure that it was not the machine I tested my friends Vodapone dongle on my Alienware notebook, with the same results that I had previously got from the Vodaphone dongle.
If you have had bad luck with Bigpond, my service does not reflect it!
PS The only reason I had Bigpond and Vodaphone is my accountant and the previous Vodaphone Dongle was for my business , the Telstra ADSL2 account is for home use, and the new Bigpond Ultimate dongle is for my Network Consulting t Company and Software Development and Deployment company, which made is easy for my accountant
hi. a blind computer user, using jaws for windows from http://ww.freedomscientific.com, and i live with my parents. well we are with iprimus, and live in devonport, tas. and their call centre is based in melbourne or sydney. so, have had to ring them a few times, and they have been helpful 99% of the time. no bad experiences.
I'm with Iprimus, although English is nice without an accent I will be switching to Tpg after having arrogant customer service and whenever I paid my bill a day late without fail they would add another 12 bucks on top, moreover they charge 2.50 to have their bill sent to my home and when I went over my download limit once I rang them to ask why my Internet was running slower than dial up they said because I had used the 150gb limit and I told them this would not be possible as I had only acquired 12gb as was on the hdd, the service rep told me that my security had been breached and they could sell me another 1 gb for around 20 dollars, I then told them I'll leave them and the guy looked at my account and said you can't leave for another 10 months and they wouldn't consider giving me the vehicle of the doubt and providing me with another gb. Pack of a'holes, don't bother with Iprimus, they're expensive, rude, and they're products are no longer competitive when you compare them with Tpg.
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